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Saturday, 8 March 2014

What things were like in Whare Ra

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A few blogs have appeared attempting to discredit Pat Zalewski, and to a lesser extent my own involvement with Whare Ra.   You might find long winded blogs out there penned by people who have never even visited New Zealand, let alone talked to Whare Ra people. They all insist that Pat, Christine, or Tony, or myself had nothing to do with Whare Ra and attempt to prove it.

One of the weird things I have noticed about the Internet is that you find a lot of Black is white comments, which deny things which I actually saw and took part in.  When it comes down to it, these comments are usually written by those who do not have any real connection to the Golden Dawn and have lineage envy.

I have written a chapter in my book Beyond the Sun about my Whare Ra involvement and will add some more details when it becomes available through Skylight Publishing next year.  Pat has recounted his experiences in the above video which makes for some jolly interesting viewing.  Pat points out that people claim that he does not follow the "Whare Ra way" as if they were experts.  However the temple did not run like that.  Every senior adept had a view about what was going on and each of them taught their students accordingly.  Pat had Jack Taylor who was the most experienced Hierophant in GD history holding the job in Whare Ra under Mrs Felkin.  The fact that Pat was trained AFTER the Whare Ra has closed is meaningless, in fact he received a better quality of training than some Whare Ra people received in the 1970s.  Training continued after Whare Ra closed its doors and there were even some initiations carried out. Must of the ritual techniques could be clearly seen in the Order of the Table Round.
To add to Pats video I would say something that many modern Golden Dawn people would not understand.  Chances are to be a member of a REAL golden dawn order might not be the fantasy you want.

In Whare Ra you were a student and you knew your place.  This whole having to listen to students pontificate intellectual knowledge or demanding grades was unheard of.  When you were ready for a grade you were told to take a test. If you could not do a lesser ritual of the pentagram ritual you would not get to 1=10.  Getting to 5=6 meant that someone thought you were special.  Those who reached the 6=5 and 7=4 had proved themselves over years of service to the Order and not because someone thought it was the right time.  This would create an order which sounds good on paper, but with the "kids of today" would find autocratic and limiting.

Someone has made the bizarre claim that this blog somehow means that I think that Golden Dawn Lineage is important.  It seems the story has been picked up by Watchers of the Dawn who asked me for a comment. My regular readers will be pleased to know that I did not have a brain hemorrhage and start renouncing everything I have ever said in my books about this particular side show.

All lineage to the Golden Dawn is made up... if you are any good at what you do you don not need lineage anyway. 

I had some good training from the Whare Ra people, and others.  If I did nothing with it, it would be useless.





Friday, 7 March 2014

Sickos are not just in the GD... it seems the AA and Thelema has its share

I dont normally cross post,  but this story got me cross.....

It seems that the GD is not the only one to have leaders who are sicko... this guy apparently was cross that Don Kraig getting sick was interfering with his fundraising efforts.  I dunno who he is but really he needs to be told that is unacceptable behavior from a human,

 http://watcherofthedawn.wordpress.com/2014/03/07/a-a-boss-revolting-rovelli-unleashes-his-inner-tosser/