tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post8078140936316579801..comments2023-09-14T06:40:37.907+02:00Comments on Nick Farrell's Blog: The democratic secret chief: Dion Fortune's view Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11198094991381684617noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-12875695149981573662013-07-19T14:47:14.634+02:002013-07-19T14:47:14.634+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-6826243157290936832013-07-19T08:10:23.243+02:002013-07-19T08:10:23.243+02:00Hi Dustin
I don't believe in physical SC'...Hi Dustin<br /><br />I don't believe in physical SC's so the contrasting becomes a moot point. The Great Pretender appears to place great stock in the end product being an example of a magical level telegram from them. Having loads of supporters cuts no ice with me because I know of many magical meditative techniques from numerous societies that can produce a high level magical effect. However you have to look at the abilities of the individuals who gauged the result as part of the process in regard to comparing true GD works and that of other orders. The GD path is part of a carefully developed interlocking process that when taught correctly helps peel away the level blocking our states of awareness. Blowing your brain out with so called high levels of meditation is not what the GD is about for beginners and those at an intermediate level. That's the hook to get you in by as teaching inner level techniques to Outer Order people or people not skilled enough to evaluate them and you'll get a big splash. The GD is not designed to be run by the white outfitted snake oil sales brigade who thrive on theatrics. Its is conservative by its nature and is designed to run on subtle levels in the Outer Order. The so called SC's have been outed by both the Great Pretender and Ruggiu and if they want any credibility left they have to back up what the Great pretender associated to them or deny it.Frankly I doubt they have anything to do with the 19th century GD whatsoever but can say something or nothing , its their call.<br /><br />patPat Zalewskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-85669827707885720762013-07-18T20:51:24.939+02:002013-07-18T20:51:24.939+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-141788286699869492013-07-18T18:14:58.622+02:002013-07-18T18:14:58.622+02:00There are similarities certainly... what it became...There are similarities certainly... what it became though was a little more of an involved relationship. I think that despite best intentions and denials, the chiefs did replace the higher self to a lesser degree in the minds of many DF followers. When any paperwork you read talks in mystical terms about the masters, there are few references to the higher self or even God.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11198094991381684617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-53447009046413203282013-07-18T17:56:11.169+02:002013-07-18T17:56:11.169+02:00It seems that Fortune's concept of a "per...It seems that Fortune's concept of a "personal Secret Chief" isn't much different from Knowledge & Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel. Except that in the K&C paradigm, each person has one and only one HGA (you don't get passed around.) But the mechanics of contact (in traditions that work with the HGA) are essentially the same. Is this just confirmation bias? IOW, the extra-normal phenomenon of "guide channeling" is a known psychological effect, but they way humans interpret that effect is through the lens of whatever that particular human has been taught to expect.Joseph Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04343503907134117709noreply@blogger.com