tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post4953777957316985274..comments2023-09-14T06:40:37.907+02:00Comments on Nick Farrell's Blog: The Golden Dawn is not a bunch of NazisAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11198094991381684617noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-89250082040021270832014-02-01T16:00:41.475+01:002014-02-01T16:00:41.475+01:00SEMPRE SBORRATA TUTTA DENTRO AL CULO: ELISA COGNO ...SEMPRE SBORRATA TUTTA DENTRO AL CULO: ELISA COGNO (FRUIMEX SAS DI ALBA), DA CRIMINALISSIMA PUTTANONA BERLUSCONAZISTA E PADANAZISTA QUALE DA SEMPRE E', LAVA TANTISSIMO CASH DI COSA NOSTRA, CAMORRA E NDRANGHETA, COME PURE RUBATO O FRUTTO DI MEGA MAZZETTE DI LL, LEGA LADRONA ED EX PDL, POPOLO DI LADRONI ( ORA FORZA ITALIA MAFIOSA), INSIEME A SUA MADRE, NOTA BAGASCIA BASTARDA SEMPRE PIENA DI SIFILIDE, CRIMINALISSIMA PIERA CLERICO (ANCHE LEI MEGA RICICLANTE SOLDI ASSASSINI, PRESSO ESTREMAMENTE MALAVITOSA FRUIMEX FRU.IM.EX SAS LOCALITA' SAN CASSIANO 15 - 12051 - ALBA - CN). 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E COLLETTO LERCIO, NONCHE' PER MESI E MESI IN GALERA: ALESSANDO PROTO ( FINANZIERE DI COSA NOSTRA, CAMORRA E NDRANGHETA, TANTO QUANTO)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-92208857119795460042013-11-22T00:24:12.399+01:002013-11-22T00:24:12.399+01:00I don't expect that comment to get "appro...I don't expect that comment to get "approval" but that says more about the blog owner than it does about me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-83527034961905111532013-11-22T00:22:26.058+01:002013-11-22T00:22:26.058+01:00"The ideas of the Far Right (and left for tha..."The ideas of the Far Right (and left for that matter) are alien to occultism, mysticism and magic. If you find any of these ideas attractive, you cannot be a viable member of the Golden Dawn. You might learn a few techniques, but you are forever locked out from discovering the real secrets."<br /><br />This is one of the most thoroughly ridiculous things I've heard in a while, especially given that you go on to contradict it by saying that the Golden Dawn doesn't judge people by religion (applied philosophy effectively) and that everyone has a function in creation. Does that function stop then when someone subscribes to a non-egalitarian point of view? Are "the secrets" reserved only to people who don't challenge (and I mean *really* challenge) what we think?<br /><br />The historical (as opposed to mythical roots) of "occultism, mysticism and magic" are in Platonism. Any other tradition (including Kabbalah, Gnosticism, Hermetism), as a matter of concrete historical fact, derives from Plato and those he influenced. On what grounds are you then going to dispense with Plato's political philosophy? What's your philosophical justification for taking from his ideas what you like and then rejecting what you don't like, beyond it not sitting well with the egalitarian outlook that society has given to you?<br /><br />Far from the "Far-Right" and "occultism" being alien to each other; they both come from the same place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-70281521692287035162013-11-14T17:44:38.071+01:002013-11-14T17:44:38.071+01:00Thank you for clearing this up! As I found in the ...Thank you for clearing this up! As I found in the link below, and others, misguided conspiracy theorists have pounced upon this one: as if Hermeticism needs to acquire an even worse pop-culture reputation! http://golden-dawn-robert-zink-chic-cicero.blogspot.com/?m=1<br />People are so damn ignorant : no wonder occult orders would rather remain "secret " as an alternative to throwing pearls of esoteric wisdom before the swine that are the paranoid masses. Anyway, thanks for clearing up this important misconception.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15275215868161813249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-60740998354962248172013-10-07T06:10:32.590+02:002013-10-07T06:10:32.590+02:00Chrysi Avgi are Greek nationalists who are proud t...Chrysi Avgi are Greek nationalists who are proud to embrace their own ancient Greek heritage that the Greeks have inherited.<br /><br />Are you aware of the role of the 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians, and other Greeks who knowingly gave up their lives for the defence of the Greek homeland against Persians at Thermopylae ? Are you aware of the fall of Constantinople/Greece beginning 1453 to the Ottoman Empire and the revolution beginning about 400 years later (1821) leading to the Greeks/friend-of-Greeks ridding themselves fo the Ottoman occupation ?<br />These ancient/modern themes, etc. are what Chrysi Avgi (termed "Golden Dawn" in the west) celebrate; the "big fire stuff" you mentioned. The nationalist Greeks are full aware of their theological past (pre-christian/christian), their philosophical/scientific/etc.past are are proud to remind people of it.<br /><br />Remember "pagan" is a derogatory word and you should know better when you attempt to use that word. Better to consider terrms like Hellenes, phil-Hellenes, non-Greeks, etc.<br /><br /><br />An intelligent person would never connect Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, etc. with the "pagan" inference ... it implies a lack of respect and much foolishness .... or contempt for the ancient Greek contribution in "jump-starting" western civilization.<br /><br />Like an english philosopher said once,<br /><br />"European philosophy are footnoes to Plato."<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-3082337927705315392013-10-06T08:24:43.053+02:002013-10-06T08:24:43.053+02:00Hitler's Brownshirts?? IIRC they had a nasty ...Hitler's Brownshirts?? IIRC they had a nasty turn on the Night of KnivesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-27694910968371193412013-09-29T23:24:57.421+02:002013-09-29T23:24:57.421+02:00I only know of one individual in the GD who head a...I only know of one individual in the GD who head a GD group and dressed up in a Nazi uniform outside of a Californian University and banged on about Nazi Christians and how they were misunderstood. His drivers license photo at the time had him wearing a Hitler mo and hair style. Interesting enough the same individual projected this Nazi to other GD members. in a series of blog posts. The photos published of this are very telling. .Perhaps he was off his meds on those occasions?Pat Zalewskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-50990358585564655942013-09-29T13:56:03.532+02:002013-09-29T13:56:03.532+02:00I remember reading early on, that all real religio...I remember reading early on, that all real religions and magickal orders are based upon the 33 Elemental/Planetary/Zodiacal/Sepirothic degrees. I also remember that the Golden Dawn (then Crowley) revealed this secret openly. Has anyone else noticed, that in contemporary occultism (including even Masonry these days) that there is a push to disregard, even discredit the 33 degrees? To me, this is just another example of the reinterment of the 33 back to secrecy. If you doubt, then tell me why "The Ritual Magic Manual" is out of print..? At 600 to 900USD, you would think that the author could use the dough, no? (it went out of print, never to be published again, after he became a Mason).... As a solitary, Ive watched y'all flame, flame, flame, while constantly and continually burying the 33.... At this point, its the only thing about the Golden Dawn that Im not embarrassed about. neognosticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245556100155172903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-80197809272579955772013-09-28T21:55:31.939+02:002013-09-28T21:55:31.939+02:00I agree that we need to be shoulder to shoulder on...I agree that we need to be shoulder to shoulder on this issue, and to make very clear to the outside world that the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and magical schools who work under other names, have no connection whatsoever with either right wing nor left wing movements. On behalf of the Hermetic Order of the Temple of Starlight I want to emphasize that we are a part of a movement whose aim is to bring light and harmony into the world, and to that end equality and human dignity of the utmost importance. So yes, I wholeheartedly support the message of Donald Michael Kraig! <br /><br />Ina Cüsters-van BergenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-26462556104945604482013-09-28T16:22:54.395+02:002013-09-28T16:22:54.395+02:00'Even if you disagree with other Hermetic Orde...'Even if you disagree with other Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn groups, I would propose that you consider standing in solidarity with them on this one, single issue'. DMK<br /><br />I disagree with all of them on something or other, but here I'm shoulder to shoulder.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06641912823737236706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-37395454103246327092013-09-28T15:34:21.464+02:002013-09-28T15:34:21.464+02:00Nick, thank you for bringing this up for a second ...Nick, thank you for bringing this up for a second time. The situation in Greece is really sad at the moment. A few members of the only Golden Dawn group made huge efforts and translated Regardie's black brick in Greek. Needless to say that the publisher was so affair to publish it and it got its place in the bookselves only recenty. Although the introduction of the Greek version makes it very clear that Golden Dawn has nothing to do with the political party, still there is great confusion. Also this guy Seraphim, who is in open war against masonry, recently gave an interview and he made the situation even worse. He linked the political party with Yeats and he even mentioned Crowley, in a bad way of course...Ichthyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12262410280907317501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458080909001903011.post-80667184492594359392013-09-28T13:17:22.594+02:002013-09-28T13:17:22.594+02:00The point is that they want to or pretend to conec...The point is that they want to or pretend to conect themself to the ancient greeks. However, Ihave never heard them calling themself pagan or claiming to prform pagan rituals other than some gathering around a big fire stuff. Same goes for the German neonazis. They occupy theancient symbols like Thor's Hammer, talki g about the gods of "our"forefathers but in fact do not have a clue about paganism or any real rituals other than some made up summer solstice nonsense. The result however is that one can not use any of the ancient symbols without been seen as being one of these nazi idiots. But also here I never heard themclaiming to be pagan or follow a pagan path...<br />Solitary Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563919720083699683noreply@blogger.com